Meat Train is a four piece grindcore/death metal band based in London whose music draws influences from a slew of sub genres ranging from grind and death metal to thrash. Meat Train released their well-acclaimed debut album Flesh Made Man under Contagion Records. Our writer ‘Debarati Das’ recently did an interview with the band. Read the conversation here-
1. Greetings from Indian Metal Scene! Please introduce the band and tell us about its inception.
MT: Formed at a drunken party around mikes voice. To be heavy, but also able to be understood. We are all friends and have either been in bands together before or hang out lots and always talked about it.
2. Meat Train’s music is characterized by ‘thick’-sounding riffage, heavy basslines and well-thought elements of sound that create an absolutely rampageous feel! Please elaborate on how you conceive of a song and how you further build on it. Is it series of riffs fitted into a concept or anything else?
Chas: It’s any seed of an idea that we jam out and play off each other. Sometimes it’s a broad or series of riffs. Sometimes it’s a song title first, like ‘zombie strippers must die’ we just needed a song by that name. A goal is to write an extreme metal so g that would work in a strip club!
Sometimes a concept is first and the music follows. Sometimes lyrics first and we write to follow and sometimes it’s riffs that just go together.
The only constant is beer and curry.
3. Meat Train’s debut album “Flesh Made Man” showcases some well-written extreme metal with a deliberate incorporation of chaotic yet complementing sounds and some nicely executed leads which speak of the rich sources like grindcore and death metal from which the band draws inspiration. Tell us about your musical influences. Are the band’s influences shared among the members?
Chas: There are many shared an also different influences. For me, I love doom and thrash, but also power metal. Mikes a bit more old school thrash and Iki some weird tastes, but appreciates more groove based and big bass sounding stuff.
4. Are there any non-musical influences (literature, art, movies, etc.) which inspire your songwriting laced around dark, gory themes like murder and cannibalism?
Chas: B movies. Totally the cheesier the better. Also the real world events like Armin Meiwes and his collaborators willingness to be eaten.
Mike: For me, I tend to write about the darker side of the human soul. Bit of horror and gore too.
5. The artwork for the album is intriguing and showcases some horrific, transhuman images. Tell us about the concept upheld by the artwork and also the idea behind naming the band ‘Meat Train’. How important do you think are aesthetics in extreme metal? Can an ideology be established by extreme metal in purely musical ways, without any aesthetics?
Chas: For us the art, themes, and imagery both mental and visual are all integrated. Extreme music unlike pop is much deeper than just a tune to dance in a shit club to.
Metal is a multimedia format. So artwork, themes, songs, sound and video all work together to give the whole picture.
As for our artwork, it’s all about the theme of “Flesh Made Man“, that hell is on earth and the demons are human. So the falling angel is essentially birth, as we come into life so potential becomes real and we are ready to do our good or evil.
Meat Train on the other hand is far simpler, nothing to think about there. Just an awesome short story by Clive Barker (the hell raiser guy). Which was made into a nice gory film.
6. You have given away your album to people across the world for free. Why so? This prompts me to ask if you think commercialization (selling) of extreme metal degrades the glory of the genre by exposing the music and its ideology to the masses, many of whom might not be able to appreciate it. What do you think about the inevitability of commercialization for the survival and exposure of good music?
Chas: We did give away for a very short time. But that attracted attention of a label so we stopped and now it’s for sale in the shops and I iTunes etc.
Metal is never about the money for us. We’d be happy to give it away as a labour of love, but the scene needs to stay alive, so shops, websites, magazines and yes small independent labels can stay alive.
We still lose money in the long term, but so what? The music is out there we are part of the scene and occasionally get a beer paid for.
Mike: It’s great that the internet has reached far and wide for us. I mean back then band’s sent out demo tapes which relied on people trading. The internet has, however put it out there and people will share it. It is free I most cases.
7. Your album “Flesh Made Man” showcases good variety through incorporation of death metal as well as grind elements. Does such variety seek to produce a narrative composition where diverse elements invoke in the listener different states of mind?
Chas: I would love to think we were that intelligent. Sadly not, we just start with the ideas and let them go their own way, it’s not entirely under our control as sometimes a song writes itself. But even if it’s not totally the normal accepted extreme as long as it’s right for Meat Train we let it live.
8. How do you think is the worldwide upheld by grindcore different from the rest of heavy metal? Do you think ideologies often sought to be established by extreme metal are triggered by societal conditions? Or are they purely based on the individual perception of the artist?
Chas: I hope grind is a bit more fun. There are a lot of people trying to out evil each other and it can get dull! Tune down and thrash out, if you challenge a few ideas on the way awesome. If you upset a few twats even better. And if you put someone off their lunch, well, that’s knocking the ball for six right off!
That’s said one of the things I like about Meat Train is the balance between our different personalities. With mike hating everything and everyone and me and my weird food obsession won’t cannibalize as the logical extreme and all of us enjoying the sick shit that makes you think.
9. What according to you have been significant standouts in metal in the last ten years?
Chas: The return to honest balls out heavy riffing. Losing the baggy trouser twats and rap crap.
Our mates BtK are pretty intense and I love their new stuff.
10. How do you relate ‘form’ with ‘content’ of the music that you write? Do you plan on establishing a definite mood in the listener through individual as well as cohesive musical patterns in a song? Or is the thought process merely incidental?
Chas: We do try and give direction at the point of writing but we don’t want to stifle the process. That said in sober light the next day we do tend to go back and draft a bit more.
When planning sets or the album preset though we spend ages shaping the whole piece to take the pace and mood up and down.
11. What are your thoughts on the idea of ‘playing extreme metal by the books’? What do you think about the standards attributed to extreme metal? Do such distinctive standards in any way limit the artist’s ability to explore the vast possibilities of a genre?
Chas: Dull! Hate the obvious. Hate the I’m heavier than you competition too!
Mike: Writing by numbers, that sucks, push and see what comes up, That’s how Zombie Strippers was born. Different for us, but it’s a great song.
12. Tell us about the band’s musical or even extra-musical goals for the future- new material, tours, ideology etc.
Chas: Gotta be the gigs. Good ones, not the obvious places either. The path less gigged would be great for us, India, Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq that’s the stuff for Meat Train.
Totally want to hit some festivals, but not any of the piss taking money making twat ones; download can shove it, bloodstock though is carry my kit on my back to play bloodstock!
As for musically we’ve shit loads left to say so another record is definitely on the cards, especially given how well flesh has been received.
Mike: Love the East hoping to get there soon. Had some offers which we will definitely take up we just want to get a few more gigs to really make the books balance, India, if you know anyone who can book us some gigs get them to message us at our Facebook address.
13. Please share with us memorable experiences from your journey as Meat Train.
Mike: The whole getting together and hearing the songs and styles take shape. Rehearsals have been great too and we’ve shared some drunken nights over beer , pizza and curry. We have a nice mix of personalities in Meat Train. Beer often brings them out. Ha Ha
14. What is your idea about metal in India? Do you listen to any Indian bands?
Don’t know much, but a growing scene in a young metal country hopefully untainted by some of the corporate bollocks that’s what we want!
Chas: Kryptos and Scarface have made it on to our radar though. And if that’s much to go by gigs must be pretty intense.
15. Do you have any message for our readers and for those in India who appreciate Meat Train?
Chas: For the growing likes and attention we are getting from you guys, thank you. For us new people in a growing scene is awesome and exciting.
Anyone have any gigs we will be there!
IMS: Thank you very much for your time. We wish you the best!
MT: Thanks from Meat Train.
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-Interviewed by Debarati Das